This blog post is (also) for all the idiots in the world who think comic books (and other fantasy stories) are only for kids.
Ok, that may have (still) been harsh, but I needed to get your attention (again) without you immediately discarding the blog post.
First of all, read this post. Then read the one below.
This post will focus on the merits of reading literature that many may deem “childish” or immature. I can assure you that this is a somewhat ignorant outlook to take regarding the issue. Fortunately, brilliant philosophical and intellectual minds like the one belonging to C.S. Lewis are here to support me in my quest to prove that comic books aren’t “just for kids.”
Here’s Mr. Lewis with this quote on fiction:
“It is usual to speak in a playfully apologetic tone about one’s adult enjoyment of what are called ‘children’s books.’ I think the convention a silly one. No book is really worth reading at the age of ten which is not equally (and often far more) worth reading at the age of fifty – except, of course, books of information. The only imaginative works we ought to grow out of are those which it would have been better not to have read at all. A mature palate will probably not much care for crème de menthe; but it ought to still enjoy bread and butter and honey.”
-C.S. Lewis, from the essay On Stories
Comic books = ...dessert?
Now, I’m not going to sit here and analyze each line in the quote. I think if you take time to read through it more than once, it should make sense. But I am going to look at, and elaborate on, the last line of that quotation.
See, I look at that quote in a more specific way. This is my (or possibly Lewis’s in another essay or book that I can’t remember) interpretation:
Now, I’m not going to sit here and analyze each line in the quote. I think if you take time to read through it more than once, it should make sense. But I am going to look at, and elaborate on, the last line of that quotation.
See, I look at that quote in a more specific way. This is my (or possibly Lewis’s in another essay or book that I can’t remember) interpretation:
When you are young (childhood age), you enjoy some form of desert (fill in cake, ice cream, brownies, etc…for simplicity’s sake, I’m going to stick with ice cream). As a kid, you enjoy ice cream whenever you can get your hands on it. At that same age, you may not at all enjoy meatloaf (substitute a meal you did not particularly care for in your youth). However, as you grew into adulthood, you may have, over time, acquired a taste for and enjoyment of meatloaf. This, however, DOES NOT mean that, in your maturing process, you lost your love for ice cream. In fact, it is quite likely that you will not only enjoy a meatloaf dinner, but you will also still savor the delicious sweetness of an ice cream cone or an ice cream sundae. While you’ve added to your palette, you haven’t necessarily “changed” your pallet.
This, to me, describes my passion for comic books. I have always enjoyed them. Since my youthful innocence when I would beg my mom to buy me Spider-Man comics in the grocery store as a kid, to buying them for $2.99 and $3.99 each every Wednesday at the comic book store, comic books have been an intellectual and mind-freeing medium of fiction that has consistently satiated my love for visual effects combined with fantasy storylines (and the “man I wish I could do that” factor in my life).
You may still enjoy THIS as a "grown-up"...
...the same way I still enjoy THIS as a "grown-up"...
The difference is, now (as an adult) I am able to enjoy so many more forms of fiction than I could in my younger years. I can read a 448-page historical fiction war novel, and be as captivated by the exploits of Alcibiades in Ancient Greece as I am with the Silver Surfer’s command of the Power Cosmic throughout the galaxies. I can be as blown away by the conclusion of 1984 and Of Mice and Men as I can by the deeply moving self-sacrifice made by Colossus in order to prevent the mutant race from being exterminated by a deadly virus.
Can you enjoy both?
To me, the comic book is simply one more medium that has remained on my palette as a form of intellectual stimulation. I refuse to “replace” it with a more “substantive” medium of fiction because I don’t feel it is necessary to do so. Can I read Great Expectations and decipher the themes and motifs within such a literary masterpiece? Yes, I feel that I am quite capable of doing so. Can I read Alan Moore’s Watchmen and find intense gravity and depth in Rorschach’s absolutist outlook on life or Ozymandias’s consequentialist attitude? Yes. Those themes (and more) are present in a work such as Watchmen. They are simply packaged in a visually-stunning comic book series/graphic novel. That, however, does not take away from the content of each page and each dialogue bubble.
So, my overall point is this: comic books, when given the chance they deserve, contain plenty of wisdom and profundity as long as they are well-written. Comics may be unrealistic fiction, but that doesn’t take away from the overall purpose of the writer’s efforts as a serious author. If a space novel or fantasy tale can be considered literature (and many of them are), then I find it hard to believe that comic books don’t deserve the same. Whether or not one thinks they are strictly for kids, the truth of the matter is that even if a “kid” can enjoy a comic book, there is often plenty of substance for a 22-year-old (or 42-year-old for that matter) to absorb and later reflect upon.
Unless you believe that name-calling and pretentiousness are the only ways to handle someone else’s passion for a literary format you have yet to examine. In which case, keep making fun of the people who read comic books.
P.S. - I understand that one argument against my C.S. Lewis quote may be “What if I never liked ice cream (fantasy stories) in the first place?” and I agree that, in such a case, comic books are probably not a fictional medium of choice for you. I can respect that. My point is that I should not have to defend my enjoyment of comic books due to the notion that they “are for kids.”
I’m also very much open to any discussion you may deem relevant in the “Comments” section of this post (or the previous one) regarding this subject. In fact, I encourage you to participate if you have any interest whatsoever. I’d love to hear some other sides/elements of this argument if you have any to offer.
I won’t be as rude as I was in the opening line. I promise.
"Spider-Man, Spider-Man...does whatever a spider can..."
6 comments:
Michael Phelps is, hands down, the greastest athlete of all time.
I think people don't like comic books, or hold prejudices against them, because they're ashamed. They feel unable to respectably enjoy something that feels so "meaningless" and fun.
It's like candy AFTER Halloween.
Anonymous - That is a bold, though quite possibly true, statement. However, I wouldn't say that strictly swimming is enough to crown him the greatest "athlete." He is a great "swimmer," but I'd need to see him compete against other professionals in sports like Track, Weightlifting, and other measurable/comparable events to see where he falls in. If he were to just absolutely dominate a decathlon or something similar, than I'd agree that he is the greatest "athlete." Until then, I'll just have to say he's (probably) the greatest swimmer of all time.
Miles - And that's what disheartens me about comics. I love candy, whether it's Halloween or not. Just like I love comics whether it's Halloween or n...wait...I mean...I love comic books. Even though I'm an adult. And the only comic books that are "meaningless" are the ones I wouldn't want to read as a kid or adult. Unfortunately, that's not a widely recognized and socially acceptable concepts. So I'll likely continue being laughed at when I mention I read comic books and then have to defend myself immediately following.
Bottom line, I agree with your comment/assessment. It's very true and that's a good way to sum it up in a few sentences. I decided to use a bunch of paragraphs instead.
Mike, I am 30 years and 6 months old (cos as we remembering the things we loved as kids lets also remember how we loved adding the months in to our ages) and I still love comics. I think that when they are written well they are great stories, and that is what great books are, great stories. Now we have a problem that there have been many bad stories told in comics but also many great ones. It is difficult to get people over the idea of comics as "for the kids" but well that is there loss (and serious problem for the industry as a whole)
I do think however when stating that comics are not for kids that we should stop using the watchmen as the example. I know it is great and I love it but it is also really, really old I think it may even be older then you (1985 wasn't it when it came out.) You need to reference more modern examples, and not stuff like Identity Crisis which isn't for kids due to the whole horrific stuff. I think examples such as Long Halloween, or Bendis on Daredevil or actually many others should be used to illustrate that comics have matured and many are just as legitimate stories as any film, tv show or novel.
Also some of the comics "For Kids" should also be shown to be as Good as anything from Pixar. the Marvel Adventures line I find to be similar in it's ability to entertain a crotchety old man such as myself.
I think the main thing that should be done is for people who like comics and read them to read them in public. Not be ashamed of them. that is the main reason that the mainstream thinks "Comics are for Kids". There was a bar I used to go to regularly (I'm Irish we drink a lot) and some day's I would be reading a book...But on New Comics day I would get my comics go to the Bar (they had really comfortable stools at the bar itself) and order a drink and read my comics, I would get odd looks from the people around and also from the staff but I was a regular there and some people would come over and mock me, which is fine, they are entitled to think of me as they wish and others would make a comment but be opening to listening to me saying why I liked them and some would even take a look at one or two that I would say were good, now they would just glance at them but still). And some would start a conversation by remarking on my reading of comics and then the conversation would move onto other topics and I had a few good nights with people that I started talking to through reading comics. I don't actually remember anyone going "hey I read comics as well" but basically I would show people that I wasn't ashamed of Comics and I think that is the most important thing that needs to be done. (I also got people coming up to me commenting on why I was reading books in the bar)
And on a final note I am only partially alcoholic and that is due to my race and I did meet my friends in bars as well. I do have friends :)
Wow this is a really long comment.
Jonathan -
Thanks for the awesome comment. I appreciate you sharing that part of your life and hearing your thoughts on the issue. Definitely good stuff. I've found myself in the same position in the last few years. There was a time when I'd buy a comic and put it in a shoebox and not mention it, but a few years ago I realized that if I love comics as much as I do, I might as well let other people see that. I've had some really good conversations with really cool people since then as a result.
On the Watchmen thoughts, I agree and disagree. I agree that there are other fantastic examples out there for people to read and understand as being perfectly suited for adults. The reason I like "Watchmen" so much as a first step is because it is easy for a person who has never read a single comic to pick it up and start reading it. It's hard to engage comic book readers who need some premise of a backstory before they can understand the characters involved. For me, Watchmen is a chance to pick up and read a comic book from start to finish that doesn't necessitate back stories, character information and relationships, or situational explanation.
For that reason, I tend to use Watchmen as a first nudge toward an interest in comic books because it's as easy to start as picking up a literary novel. Although one could say that people don't *need* to understand Daredevil's back story to appreciate the Bendis run, Moore does an unbelievable job in developing the characters from the start in Watchmen, rather than readers picking up from a point in a character like Daredevil's storied and varied past. In this regard, I think there are plenty of great comics that highlight the ability for comic books to appeal to adults, but the Watchmen is just the ideal start down the path that can interest them in other storylines and other characters.
Excellent point on the "Kids" comics being completely enjoyable from an adults point of view as well. That's very true and I also think it's a great way for parents and kids to connect. If you and your child can both enjoy the fun and excitement of a Spider-Man storyline, both sides win (in my opinion).
Thanks for your thoughts, Jonathan.
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